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I was offered a pretty decent deal on a brand new Ovation tonight: Trade in my Alvarez for about half of what I paid for it, pick up the new Ovation with that much knocked off, plus an additional 20% off as the store is running a sale through the weekend. The list price for this one is just under $1000. All told, I could get it for about $550 or so. Questions: Is this a good deal? Is the Ovation a good guitar? I LOVED the sound of it, and am very tempted, but as I learn I am getting more and more picky and want something that will last.

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Well personally, i've never "really" liked the ovations. Not for an all around guitar. They don't sound as natural as wood or a carbon fibre equivalent like a Rainsong or a CA Guitars. Let me ask, is your Alverez an AY / Alverez Yairi ? It seems the AY's sound WAY better.
The ovations seem to play nice right out of the box and excel in LIVE performance situations where the body of the guitar isn't as much of a factor in the sound and they have great feedback control. Seagull gets great reviews and some of them are priced pretty fairly.
I really want a Rainsong or a CA .. they are indestructable and have a HUGE sound. well not indestructable but they you don't have to worry so much about humidity and travelling with them.
I'm not crazy about the Alverez guitars either so its kind of a toss up between them ..
In the end, your the one thats gonna be playing it .. so get what makes you happy.
Just consider how your gonna use it and buy a guitar for your particular situation.
Hope this helps
Jeff Williams
www.jeffwilliams-usa.com
What is the model is it an Elite I had an Elite sp shallow bowl and loved it so much that I now own an Adamas. There is a love/hate thing some people like myself love them others don't. Plugged in and unplugged sound to me was and is awesome. Go here for more answers to your questions www.ovationfanclub.com
Paul
Thanks, Jeff, for your response. That is the sort of feedback I am seeking, who likes them, or not, and WHY. The why is important to me, since I am still pretty new to the guitar overall. My Alvarez is an AD80SSB. It's okay, but I like a mellow and more rounded sound.




Jeff Williams said:
Well personally, i've never "really" liked the ovations. Not for an all around guitar. They don't sound as natural as wood or a carbon fibre equivalent like a Rainsong or a CA Guitars. Let me ask, is your Alverez an AY / Alverez Yairi ? It seems the AY's sound WAY better.
The ovations seem to play nice right out of the box and excel in LIVE performance situations where the body of the guitar isn't as much of a factor in the sound and they have great feedback control. Seagull gets great reviews and some of them are priced pretty fairly.
I really want a Rainsong or a CA .. they are indestructable and have a HUGE sound. well not indestructable but they you don't have to worry so much about humidity and travelling with them.
I'm not crazy about the Alverez guitars either so its kind of a toss up between them ..
In the end, your the one thats gonna be playing it .. so get what makes you happy.
Just consider how your gonna use it and buy a guitar for your particular situation.
Hope this helps
Jeff Williams
www.jeffwilliams-usa.com
Ya know, Paul, I did not check the model when I was playing with it in the store. I just really liked the sound and the feel of it. I found my fingers liked the fretboard. I came home after and tried to find it on Ovation's site. I am pretty sure it is an Elite, but not sure which one. They had another next to it in the store, more "tinny" sound than this one ... and priced lower too.



Paul Ciampaglia said:
What is the model is it an Elite I had an Elite sp shallow bowl and loved it so much that I now own an Adamas. There is a love/hate thing some people like myself love them others don't. Plugged in and unplugged sound to me was and is awesome. Go here for more answers to your questions www.ovationfanclub.com
Paul
The Adamas is the top of the line .. its the best you can get ..
They have a much better sound. But they have a bigger price tag too ..
The nice thing about an ovation is you don't have to worry about scratching it up as much.
Only the top can get scratches. You don't have to worry as much about breaking the wood on the back because there isn't any .. Not having to worry has it advantages ..
What I found with my Ovation was that when I plugged in she was ready to go. The overseas Ovation are no comparison to the ones made in the USA. I also took it to nursing homes unplugged and it projected very well. It sounds like the dealer is giving you a good deal. I have found if I like the tone and playability it does not matter about the name, there are some awesome guitars out there. I also own a Alvarez AD60SC which I like very much.
Paul

Serapion said:
Ya know, Paul, I did not check the model when I was playing with it in the store. I just really liked the sound and the feel of it. I found my fingers liked the fretboard. I came home after and tried to find it on Ovation's site. I am pretty sure it is an Elite, but not sure which one. They had another next to it in the store, more "tinny" sound than this one ... and priced lower too.



Paul Ciampaglia said:
What is the model is it an Elite I had an Elite sp shallow bowl and loved it so much that I now own an Adamas. There is a love/hate thing some people like myself love them others don't. Plugged in and unplugged sound to me was and is awesome. Go here for more answers to your questions www.ovationfanclub.com
Paul
Yeah, I am all about the sound. This thing IMPRESSED me there. I was asking about the name only because it is new to me. I have seen their adds, but have not seen any reviews. I was curious about longevity, how does it hold up over time, things like that. Between you and Jeff, I think I have a better feel for it now. I was also able to find a few things in the AG archives here that helped too. I think I may just have to go for it!! ... if I can make the budget work. There is a reason we have bologna and Ramen noodles, right?



Paul Ciampaglia said:
What I found with my Ovation was that when I plugged in she was ready to go. The overseas Ovation are no comparison to the ones made in the USA. I also took it to nursing homes unplugged and it projected very well. It sounds like the dealer is giving you a good deal. I have found if I like the tone and playability it does not matter about the name, there are some awesome guitars out there. I also own a Alvarez AD60SC which I like very much.
Paul

Serapion said:
Ya know, Paul, I did not check the model when I was playing with it in the store. I just really liked the sound and the feel of it. I found my fingers liked the fretboard. I came home after and tried to find it on Ovation's site. I am pretty sure it is an Elite, but not sure which one. They had another next to it in the store, more "tinny" sound than this one ... and priced lower too.



Paul Ciampaglia said:
What is the model is it an Elite I had an Elite sp shallow bowl and loved it so much that I now own an Adamas. There is a love/hate thing some people like myself love them others don't. Plugged in and unplugged sound to me was and is awesome. Go here for more answers to your questions www.ovationfanclub.com
Paul
Don't forget Cheerios as for longevity I know people who have models from the 70s and are in mint condition. It's all in how well you take care of it. I personally never regretted buying my Ovation.
Paul

Serapion said:
Yeah, I am all about the sound. This thing IMPRESSED me there. I was asking about the name only because it is new to me. I have seen their adds, but have not seen any reviews. I was curious about longevity, how does it hold up over time, things like that. Between you and Jeff, I think I have a better feel for it now. I was also able to find a few things in the AG archives here that helped too. I think I may just have to go for it!! ... if I can make the budget work. There is a reason we have bologna and Ramen noodles, right?



Paul Ciampaglia said:
What I found with my Ovation was that when I plugged in she was ready to go. The overseas Ovation are no comparison to the ones made in the USA. I also took it to nursing homes unplugged and it projected very well. It sounds like the dealer is giving you a good deal. I have found if I like the tone and playability it does not matter about the name, there are some awesome guitars out there. I also own a Alvarez AD60SC which I like very much.
Paul

Serapion said:
Ya know, Paul, I did not check the model when I was playing with it in the store. I just really liked the sound and the feel of it. I found my fingers liked the fretboard. I came home after and tried to find it on Ovation's site. I am pretty sure it is an Elite, but not sure which one. They had another next to it in the store, more "tinny" sound than this one ... and priced lower too.



Paul Ciampaglia said:
What is the model is it an Elite I had an Elite sp shallow bowl and loved it so much that I now own an Adamas. There is a love/hate thing some people like myself love them others don't. Plugged in and unplugged sound to me was and is awesome. Go here for more answers to your questions www.ovationfanclub.com
Paul
Hello, another world heard from: I had a Legend Elite, mid-bowl, for a few weeks and took it back. I couldn't stand it, just my impression. It had anemic sound plugged in or not and the top was pretty fragile seeming. I'm not disputing anybody elses opinion here, but for me, it wasn't the guitar. I have a Breedlove Atlas for a less expensive travel guitar, and it ate the Ovation alive. I have a Taylor 814 LTD. and a better Breedlove for reference, but these are both far more expensive. I like the response recommending Rainsong and CA. From my experience, Ovation would be far down the list. Adamas is a whole different CAT. Rickie Medlocke played for a whole afternoon for me a long time ago on a brand new Adamas that he received as a gift for winning Guitar Player of the Year Award and it was an awesome guitar. I believe that they are still pretty great if not better. Not to be confused with run of the mill Ovations. FWIW.
If you like the sound and the round back is compatible with you, what does it matter what others think?

If you go the Ovation route, which I highly recommend you do if you like it, be prepared for a lot of flack and criticism from people with a narrow perspective. It's amazing how many people 'hate' Ovations until they try a genuine USA Ovation.

I live in Australia and use US made Ovations coz I love them and don't care if others don't. Especially when, after they actually HEAR and PLAY either of my US Ovations, they're converted. The only thing stopping some from buying one is that some people just can't deal with the round back. New Ovations have a contour bowl which seems to address this issue. I've got a contour bowl AND a round deep bowl and I've never had a problem. I'm mainly a sit-down player, so that helps.

Serapion, FYI an 'Elite' has the multi sound holes. A Legend or Balladeer will have the traditional single hole.

Whatever you choose to buy, enjoy it.
You mentioned that there was another Ovation at the store that didn't sound quite so good... Not all Ovations are Ovations! Some are Celebrity's, which are of cheaper off-shore manufacture. So before you spent five hundred bucks and trade-away you Old Faithful, do some research. There is the "List Price"... Which nobody pays! And then there is the street price.

Also... Before you ask opinions about Ovations... Understand that people either Love them, or they Hate them. There is No In-Between. Also, people who Hate Ovations probably never played a Good USA model. I play Ovations, and I like other guitars. Some folks won't even play an Ovation just cuz they have decided that they are all crap!

That said, it all comes down to what you like. You stated the the neck felt good and the guitar sounded good. That is Good. There are some good deals out there on 'Lower-Priced' USA Ovations that are being moved to off-shore manufacture.
Also most Ovations have nifty things like built-in tuners and a pre-amp should you want to plug-in.
Ovations are generally consistent unit-to-unit, so if you pick-up one Elite 1778T, the one next to it will sound the same.
That is not always the case with All-Wood guitars, cuz each one has it's own 'Personality'.

Ovations come at all price-points. I just bought a new USA Elite T for $600... You can buy an Adamas for $3000 or more. Ovations are good guitars which are pretty sturdy and will take some abuse. Takes likkin and keeps on tickin!

You can go to the Ovation Fan Club at....http://www.ovationfanclub.com/cgi-bin/ubb/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=ge...

There they will give you more information and tell you that you need to buy Seven of them.
One for each day of the week.
Serapion if you get a chance ask this question at this link.
Paul
http://www.ovationfanclub.com/cgi-bin/ubb/non-cgi/ultimatebb.php?ub...

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