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Comment by Robert Williamson on July 1, 2014 at 5:16am

copied from Seagull group...

So I tried out the SA12 at Harmonie Musique  in St Anne-de-Bellevue. Unexpectedly it is a glossy black. It had a nice touch, pristine finish. It may need action lowered a bit.

All the blue you see is window reflections.

He is selling it on-consignment and is asking $400CDN, I assume not including shipping or taxes.  Email or  via FaceBook

Comment by Robert Williamson on June 21, 2014 at 1:25pm

well I'm tired of trying to play the Fender Hellcat  Mahogany 12 string. Guess I'll try to sell it. Cause of the deal I got I should be able to get what i paid for it and still sell it cheaper than any guitar store in Montreal.

Comment by Mike Raeburn on June 9, 2014 at 5:03am

Good luck with your negotiations! I sometimes use locksmith's graphite dust on sticky tuner gears, better than liquid lube as it doesn't get into the grain of the wood.

Comment by Dave Fengler on June 9, 2014 at 4:50am

Thanks Mike.  I've rescued more than a few "firewood" guitars and donated them to our kids middle school.  My biggest problem is I have an Alvarez 12 string I rescued a couple of years ago that I don't use much, and I rescued an old Ibanez 12 string that is in traction to flatten the top.  I don't need another 12 string but this Yamaha would match up nicely with my 1977 FG-350W.  If I go for it I'd sell the Alvarez and donate the Ibanez (as I had planned).  The Ibanez tuners are going to need some work, especially the low E and A which are hard to turn.

We'll see if the guy does all the things I asked, I'd expect it was too much to ask and I won't hear from him again.  I've had that happen before.  Typically people who don't know much about guitars can't be bothered with all the technical details.  Since he contacted me, even though I gave him a low offer, he must not of gotten any other interest.  I'm thinking I should have offered $100.

Comment by Mike Raeburn on June 9, 2014 at 1:19am

Hi Dave, You will probably find that one or other of the tuners available from Stewmac will fit. If you ask Stewmac they may well be able to tell you, I have always found them very willing to help. Other possibilities are, replace the tuners with 12 individual tuners, plug the holes and re-drill them to fit a new six on a plate tuner strips or try to find tuners the same as those originally fitted and replace the missing gears and knobs. I had the same problem with a Levin 12 string which had wrecked tuners. I managed to find a 'vintage' set from Stewmac that fitted perfectly and looked similar to the originals. The crack on the back can be easily stabilised by gluing a small strip of suitable wood across it. Whatever you decide, it is very satisfying to rescue a guitar that is about to become firewood and return it to playable condition. Keep us informed of what you decide to do.

Comment by Dave Fengler on June 8, 2014 at 7:56pm

I'm looking at a Yamaha FG-512 on CraigsList.  Made 1977 to 1981, slot head tuners.  I offered $125 but I'm having second thoughts.  He lives an hour away.  It looks to be in nice shape except it was converted to 6 string by a previous owner, and he removed the extra 6 tuners.  I've asked him to measure the distance between the strings and the 12th fret, the distance between the tuner shafts, and a few more pics.  Old Yamaha's are know for needing neck resets.

My chances of finding original tuners are slim.  Replacements could be tough depending on what the spacing is.

Does anyone have any knowledge of old Yamaha slot head tuners or where to buy replacements?  Here's some possibilities but I don't know what the center distances are.  

Comment by FloridaGull on June 4, 2014 at 6:32am

You're doing a walking bass on the G string?  Not to bassy there, IMHO... ;-)

Comment by Robert Williamson on June 4, 2014 at 6:25am

hard to index finger for walking bass

Comment by FloridaGull on May 26, 2014 at 9:56pm
For some songs, use your thumb for the E-A-D string sets - for others, use your thumb for the E-A-D-and-G string sets. When you use your index finger on the G string set, your upstroke will naturally sound the lower-pitched G string first...
Comment by Robert Williamson on May 23, 2014 at 2:47pm

Ive noticed something about my mustang 12 that is aggravating me.

The 4th octave string is comparatively too loud...probably and strangley because I'm only  hitting the 4th octave string when I finger pick.

Must change hand position so thumb meat does some work....


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