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Comment by Robert Alan Kershaw on April 1, 2016 at 3:09pm

Hey! You guys have been busy in the last week! So have I but guitars didn't feature.

Antonio: that's a pretty heavy set of strings you're using, even if you tune down a step. I've tried that set but my left hand can't cope with anything but extra-light on the 12 string these days even tuned down to D. I'm thinking on going to Dadarrio silk and steel. 

Clyde: the name Kershaw has its origins in the County of Lancashire, England

It's at least a thousand years old and in Old English means a church near a small wood. Kershaw County, South Carolina was organised by a man called Edward Kershaw who died in 1791. My theory is that some of the South Carolina Kershaws moved south to northern Louisiana and intermarried with the French Cajun settlers there. This could, of course, be complete nonsense and maybe a boat from Liverpool,  England simply delivered some Lancashire  Kershaws to Louisiana at some point a couple of hundred years ago! Anyway, I very much regret that I can't claim any direct relationship to Doug and Rusty Kershaw or even the excellent country singer Sammy Kershaw although in Doug's heyday, I used to lie about it. Incidentally, Kershaws are scarce as hens teeth in Northern Ireland, where I live but there're still plenty in Lancashire, England. 

Robert: thank you for the video. Nice to see Doug in action way back when.

Regards to all.

Comment by Clyde Joseph Ortego on April 1, 2016 at 2:29pm

Hey Antonio:

They are 3in1 all together original tuners.

Clyde

Comment by Robert on April 1, 2016 at 11:19am

Thanks for the tip, Mike.  I've occasionally used a drop of 3-in-1 oil on my tuners in the past, but will switch to graphite.  Fortunately, I haven;'t noticed any finish degradation around the gears.

Comment by Antonio Cotichini on April 1, 2016 at 10:54am

Are the original Silvertone tuners 3+3 all in a line or single pieces?

Comment by Clyde Joseph Ortego on April 1, 2016 at 10:25am

Thank You, Mike:

I will get with my  local Guitar Store and see what he has in the line of tuners for it.

Thanks Again

Clyde j.  Ortego

Comment by Mike Raeburn on April 1, 2016 at 1:51am

I would advise against using machine oil or indeed any kind of liquid for lubricating tuners. The problem is it always gets into the wood and initially stains it, then lifts the finish and finally softens it so the screws holding the tuners in place start to come loose. There are two options, a wax or locksmith's graphite. If you go the wax direction make sure it is not too soft otherwise you will get the same result after a time as you will get from using oil. I have used a hard furniture wax with some success and also the graphite dust. The graphite is a bit messy if you get it on your hands but a wipe with a soft cloth gets rid of most of the excess. I collect Levin guitars and the Van Ghent tuners on them tend to get stiff after a while. The ones I play often usually have had the tuners changed out for Schallers and the originals kept in the case if I ever want to return the guitar to original condition. I also have a 12 string Levin that had no tuners when I got it so I bought a set of Vintage tuners from StewMac and was very pleased with the result, very close to the originals. The only problem with swapping tuners is you tend to get extra holes in the head but these can be plugged if you return to the original tuners.

Comment by Clyde Joseph Ortego on March 31, 2016 at 9:06pm

Hey All:

I know this is not a 12 string question,

But I play my wife's 1967 Silver tone acoustic with open tuners and a couple of them are getting hard to turn.

The tuners are original and my wife will not let me replace the tuners with ones that are more efficient.

Is it a good idea to place a drop of machine oil on each tuner gear in order to make them more pliable and  tune easier?

Thanks

Clyde j. Ortego

  

Comment by Mike Raeburn on March 30, 2016 at 10:22am

You can get Mammoth Ivory which is rather cool, having been frozen in the tundra for a couple of thousand years. I believe you can also get Walrus Tooth as well, I have no experience of either. That guy finger picking the mandolin from Antonio's link has nails like bear claws!

Comment by Michael S. Jackson on March 30, 2016 at 9:31am

I've been following this... good comments. I use metal fingerpicks for my banjo but not for guitar. I used to use them for guitar - especially resonator slide - but didn't care for the aggressive sound. I tried the Alaska picks (shown earlier) but never got used to them. Always a trouble keeping fingernails in shape and from breaking, especially with steel strings. I use fake fingernails in an emergency but don't like using super glue so I quit cutting ping pong balls to shape and now use stick-on nails when I break a natural nail (which happens more often that I like).

As for saddle and nuts, I prefer ivory.

Thx - mj

Comment by Dave Fengler on March 29, 2016 at 6:37pm

Hey, whatever works!

 

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