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NGD for me! 2011 Guild GAD F212 has flown south from NJ... 12 Replies

Started by FloridaGull. Last reply by John Wilson on Wednesday.

Increasing course spacing 15 Replies

Started by Robert Williamson. Last reply by Antonio Cotichini Mar 13.

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Comment by Martin van Dooremalen on March 21, 2015 at 2:38pm

Oh boy, Robert, this could go off on a serious tangent so I will stop there as well lest my wife peer over my shoulder or ask what I'm grinning about.....

Comment by Robert Williamson on March 21, 2015 at 2:30pm

Martin :)

"Amplification on an acoustic is like a padded pushup bra on a girl."

I did not intend to imply it added a wow factor, I meant it creates a false impression of the acoustic quality.You cannot choose a guitar on the basis of a demo of it's electronics :)I will not carry the analogy further, my wife may have words with  me :)

Comment by Robert Williamson on March 21, 2015 at 2:05pm

i think i would be happy with almost any guitar with courses spread wide enough that that my finger does not contact 3 strings for every finger. :(

Today i tried to play what I like to call my harpsichord arrangement (just a hell of a lot of arpeggios :) of Hallelujah on the Fender.

It was incredibly hard. Almost every fingering in 1st or 2ed position had the next string over muffled.... and this was with guitar tuned down a whole step AND capoed at 5th fret!

Comment by Martin van Dooremalen on March 21, 2015 at 11:55am

"Amplification on an acoustic is like a padded pushup bra on a girl."

Sure, it can be a wow factor and gets attention, but alone in my music room it's just me and my guitar, no amplification is necessary and I like it just fine.

My guitar, that is........ ;-)

Comment by Martin van Dooremalen on March 21, 2015 at 11:48am

Robert.......you might really appreciate the body size of the Breedlove 12's, they're like a Taylor GA so very comfortable for seated playing. Not a lot of acoustic volume but very nice tone. I've heard lots of good things about the Pursuit models, they even come with the Breedlove bridge truss system which is another bonus over and above the pinless bridge, as well as a USB interface in the electronics. I almost struck a deal for the Stage model 12 when I was looking but in the end couldn't justify the money for a lam b&s 12er.

Comment by Martin van Dooremalen on March 21, 2015 at 11:39am

I find Takamine 12's very hit and miss when I do actually find one. I don't like the feel of their neck profile and depending on the model it feels like the nut width varies. People say Taylor 12's are bright? Listen to a Tak jumbo body with lam maple back and sides and you will forget "all about the bass". IMHO of course.

Comment by Robert Williamson on March 21, 2015 at 8:46am

mmm breedlove

even the name is evocative

pinless bridge Yes!

Comment by Robert Williamson on March 21, 2015 at 7:15am

actually Florida ..given my situation, my GAS is put aside, since I cannot drive for a month. ANd my wife is not the kind of person who woud be happy to drive me to a guitar store and sit around waiting But i do want to remove the fender irritant.

So i am looking a 12 string demos, but need to ignore plugged in ones, After all,

Amplification on an acoustic is like a padded pushup bra on a girl.

Doubt it? Proof?

One word: Ovation

Comment by Robert Williamson on March 21, 2015 at 7:09am

fellows name is Jack Isidore he has a loads of videos

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9yB00cpK-65Hdac0mWQFcg

i am being impressed as i write this ;)

His arrangement of Hall of the Mountain King is on a Taylor 12, By the sound I would have never know it was a 12 string at all. That is the dullest 12 string I have ever heard. Obviously Taylor 12's or that particular model) need to be plugged in to have both depth and brightness as evidenced by other 12 string Taylor demos.

Comment by Robert Williamson on March 21, 2015 at 6:58am

rreal nice sound, he obviously tuned down a wholes step..and his composition style is exactly in my own wheelhouse also.. although his technique is classical...perhaps i need  a takamine ?

 

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