Breaking News?? Seagull Changing to Long-Scale?

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Permalink Reply by Jud Hair on May 11, 2012 at 11:31am

Harry ... I agree 100%.  That would be a huge mistake.

The 1.8 nut is the factor that sold me on Seagull to begin with. 

I dearly hope they don't change the nut width options (and I really don't think they will).

Permalink Reply by Rex Edmonds on May 11, 2012 at 11:49am

The 1.8 in nut is what sold me too. I want to get a Maritime in the future but not if the nut width is reduced.

Permalink Reply by Ron Khoo on May 11, 2012 at 8:23pm

Update on differences between the 25.5 (approximately) Natural Element Gull and the 24.8 (approximately) Entourage Rustic Gull. The difference in .7 inch seems to be made up two ways.  The bridge seems to be moved down about .35 inches and the neck is .35 inches longer.  The body size is exactly the same when placed back to back.

Read in another forum that someone measured the frets for intonation for the new scale length and they are spot on. I am just using a measuring tape so I am not that accurate.  I am also more concerned about not scratching my guitars than being accurate.

Permalink Reply by Joe Brancato on May 12, 2012 at 11:15pm

Well.....this may be a welcome change on some models. If the longer scale provides for slightly better action and a little more bass response, then I'm all for it. It's great to own/play an instrument that's not a run-of-the-mill guitar...and I think Seagulls have their own identity. They're a great value...and they're made in Canada...and not the Pacific rim...but there's always room for improvement. I look forward to checking out a Peppino model w/ the longer scale.

JB

Permalink Reply by FloridaGull on May 13, 2012 at 7:53am

Interesting - I wonder if the change will apply to the 12 strings or the Peppino D'Agostino model, which share the 1.9" nut? How much tooling do they want to change? Peppino may not want "his" model changed - and there may be an advantage to a slightly shorter scale on a 12 string...

Permalink Reply by Jason J. on May 13, 2012 at 11:34pm

I did not measure my Natural Elements so thanks Ron. I should since I have a folk and mini jumbo. I do not like this change, I have a smaller hands. However, my NE Mini Jumbo is one of my favorites to play. I would just hate to see a company and brand I love may a decision that can hurt them. They have a good thing going.

Permalink Reply by Ron Khoo on May 14, 2012 at 6:28pm

Go and measure the scale length of your NE.  I got a message saying my NE is 24.84 while I measure it at 25.5.

Permalink Reply by John Culver on May 14, 2012 at 5:32am

where exactly does one measure to determine the scale of the guitar?

Permalink Reply by Jud Hair on May 14, 2012 at 5:43am

Here's one pretty clear explanation:

How to measure scale length on an acoustic guitar

Permalink Reply by FloridaGull on May 14, 2012 at 5:48am

Nut to saddle...

Permalink Reply by Ron Khoo on May 14, 2012 at 8:55am

I did nut to 12 fret and nut to saddle on e1.  I know it should be nut to saddle averaged between g3 and d4 but my measurements are enough to determine that the Natural Element Seagull is long scale.

Permalink Reply by Harry Lindahl on May 14, 2012 at 12:30pm

One thing more important than the scale is: Seagull now only sells its Artist (high end) series with CW and installed electronics. I do not want to have CW, and even less, ready installed electronics in my guitar. If Seagull doesn't change it's policy in this respect, no more Seagulls.

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