Do you know what "Nashville Tuning" means? If so skip this, if not, it's great info!

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Permalink Reply by FloridaGull on January 17, 2012 at 11:14am

He says that's a Maton Mini - looks like the Taylor GS Mini and the Walden T550...

He uses a rather bogus "G" for an alleged instructor...

So, on your typical 12-string, you've got standard and nashville tuning in one!

Thanks for finding this, Jud! :-)

Permalink Reply by Jud Hair on January 17, 2012 at 11:33am

You're welcome, of course.

Curious about the "bogus G" comment ... isn't that one of the two standard ways most folks play their "G", going back to the discussion topic we had on the "G" chord a week or so ago?

Permalink Reply by FloridaGull on January 17, 2012 at 12:05pm

Unless I missed it, he's using fingers 1-2-3 - not the 1-2-3-4 of the "bluegrass" G or the 3-2-4 of the "normal" G - trying not to get the pinkie involved - much less utility, IMHO...

I just looked at it again - he doesn't seem to be using his pinkie, but I will admit the ad makes it hard to see precisely...

Oh, you can close the ad - duh!

And, he changes to the 3-2-4 G at the end!

Permalink Reply by Ray on January 17, 2012 at 1:17pm

One of the standard fingerings for an open G is 1-2-3.  There is nothing wrong with this fingering.  A lot of people use it.  It is the fingering I use most often.

 

As my mother used to say, "There's more than one way to skin a cat."

Permalink Reply by FloridaGull on January 17, 2012 at 2:35pm

This is all I meant - quotes taken from our "G chord" discussion from awhile ago...

This is what I said:

"Ahh, but what about the different fingering for the three-fingered G that some people are taught - the 2-1-3 finger shape (rather than 3-2-4 - jud's #2 pic)?  IMHO, this shape is too limiting for the common "G", and does not allow quick and easy changing to a "C" chord or an "F" chord or a "G7" chord or a "Gmaj7" chord, or for the bass or treble runs that Blackback Gull mentions above..."

And, "Blackback Gull" said:

"The 2-1-3 G is usually an attempt by novices to avoid bringing the pinkie finger into play - might work for a very short while, but the 2-3-4 configuration is, as Florida points out, a far better starting point for other chords and runs..."

Of course, there are many ways to form chords...do what feels right!

 

Permalink Reply by FloridaGull on January 17, 2012 at 2:54pm

Ok - "bogus" was perhaps the wrong choice of word - watched "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" with the kids this weekend...maybe "inefficient" is better... ;-)

Permalink Reply by FloridaGull on January 17, 2012 at 12:18pm

Here's the same guy with a review of his Maton Mini - good player - nice guitar...

 

Permalink Reply by Phil Manuel on January 17, 2012 at 12:54pm

Just be carefull to use string gauges that will allow for tuning to these higher octaves, otherwise you may snap more than a string. Also, I'd use a cheapie second guitar to experiment with the tuning. I used the tuning a few times for recording, and it was nice, but not worth my effort at the time. My band mate had a Rick 12 string with slanted frets, and we didn't really need to fake the 12 string shimmer jingle jangle thang.

What I've found more useful, especially playing live with two acoustics, is to work out arrangements where 1 guitar plays in the first position area, and the other is using a capo, playing different chord shapes but the same basic chord. Fuzzy? Ok, an example, 1st guitar plays a regular "C" with the root on the 5th string 3rd fret. The 2nd guitar has the capo on the 5th fret, and plays a "G" shape chord, which due to using the capo sounds a "C" chord, only higher in basic tone.

Can't argue the use of Nashville tuning to open your ears to more sonic capabilities, though. Just for me, I don't record that much, and would not see any benefit to setting up one of my guitars to use it. I know Paul Simon, for one uses it for recording, at least in the past. As an alternative, if you can find one, check out the sound of a charango, it can sound amazing with an acoustic guitar.

Permalink Reply by Ray on January 17, 2012 at 1:22pm

At last, something to do with my used strings!

 

Is there a "Memphis Tuning" where you drop the 4 highest strings by an octave? 

Permalink Reply by Ralph A Abernethy on January 17, 2012 at 2:25pm

I found this guy enjoyable to watch. Never seen him before.

Permalink Reply by Jud Hair on January 17, 2012 at 2:43pm

Ralph ... Justin Sandercoe is one of the most prolific free lesson teachers on the web.  He and Marty Schwartz are unbelievably generous and skilled at showing you how to play a song quickly and easily.  Click here  http://www.justinguitar.com/ and check Justin out.  You can google Marty as well.  Like I say ... free!  Of course they'd both like for you to donate and/or buy something, but there are no strings attached (ha ha) to their free lessons.  ;-)

Permalink Reply by Ralph A Abernethy on January 17, 2012 at 3:39pm

I've learned a lot from this forum in the week or so I've been a member. Thanks, guys!

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