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Comment by Ken Rhodes on April 15, 2014 at 8:28pm

I understand how you feel. In my own teaching practice I don't teach songs, which sometimes disappoints prospective students. I am happy to help a student learn any song they are interested in learning, but I view that as being secondary to learning how to play in general. Using songs to teach the concepts is a good way to do it, but it needs to have more structure than what you are describing. My preference is to give the students the skills they need to play and learn songs on their own, and then guide them through whatever questions they might have about it during the process.

Comment by Scott L Ritchie on April 15, 2014 at 2:53pm

Thanks for the encouragement and the comments Ken. I am having fun with my guitar and spending anywhere from 1 - 4 hours per day practicing and working on the course materials. It is well structured with a solid and clear teaching approach.

I was a bit surprised about the one on one lessons and how the three different people I had lessons with were all stating the same concept of instruction. That being... bring in a cd of some songs you want to learn and we will work on them. You will learn to play the guitar by playing songs.

I suppose for people with little time to practice are fine with that approach but I wasted to begin with theory and getting to know the guitar and how to play it from reading sheet music or making my own annotations instead... compared to what they offered. Most seemed to care very little about theory, sight reading, transposing etc. and if they did teach it they only taught it to those who already played well but needed to round out their knowledge and skillsets to progress.

So I am digging deep into the old mental-hard-drive to get back what I had learned when I played the trumpet as a teenager. Lots of practice and working on 're-learning' music theory how I am doing it now and probably will be for quite some time.


Comment by Ken Rhodes on April 15, 2014 at 6:20am

Scott, welcome to the group! It's always nice to connect with other players here in Utah. While I'mnot personally familiar with the Gibson L&M series, it sounds to me like you're taking the right approach. What I am familiar with is the effect of a consistent practice routine. You can listen to a teacher talk all day long or watch a million hours of instructional video and the quality of that instruction will not meananything if you don't practice. I tell my own students that short practice sessions done frequently will help A LOT more than long practice sessions with low frequency. I tellthem to practice at least every other day. You can't always practice every single day, but try not to miss more than one day in between practice sessions. Even if all you have time to do is a warm up exercise, do that. It will at least keep your hands on the guitar. I think too many beginners underestimate the importsnce of muscle memory for learning how to play in the beginning, and frequency is the key to building that.

Comment by Dennis Younkin on April 15, 2014 at 5:35am

Welcome Scott,

My wife Picked me up Learn and Master Guitar back in the summer of 2011. I have learned alot from Steve and the program. On alot of Tuesdays at 8eastern standard time He holds free live lessons on line.

Comment by Scott L Ritchie on April 10, 2014 at 12:43pm

I, too, am surprised by the number of people who have posted what amounts to Hundreds of Dollars worth of lessons via YouTube and other sources online. Pleasantly surprised I must add! I am truly enjoying learning a new trick. Being "an old dog" isn't so bad after all you know. ( heh heh heh)

I look forward to interacting with others who have set out on the journey to playing a truly magical instrument.


Comment by Walt Pilcher on April 10, 2014 at 7:19am

Welcome, Scott.  Sounds like you have plunged into this guitar thing with both feet (well, both hands anyway).  I have no experience with the instructions and instructors you mention, but there are indeed some very good ones online.  It always amazes me that so many are willing to do it for free.  But I'm grateful.  Maybe other forum members will comment on your post.

Comment by Scott L Ritchie on April 9, 2014 at 11:19pm

Picked up the Gibson Learn and Master course with Steve Krenz as the instructor a few weeks ago. Just finished with the "Alfred's Basic Book 1" so the first bit of lessons and workshops are things I have already covered. Very happy with the instruction style as compared to the Alfred's "1 and done" approach to their video lessons.

Have always wanted to learn and have a musical background. Started with one-on-one live lessons with a local instructor at Alpine Music here in UT. My wife has had open heart surgery and 3 weeks into my lesson schedule had a reaction to the treatment so the affordability of continuing the lessons was no longer an option.

What do y'all think about the level of learning from a quality course like the Gibson Learn and Master compared to in person lessons?

I am retired and have tons of time for practice and am really taking my time to move through the material. I have worked out a few songs just from starting with the first chord and moving on from there. "The Eagles" "Hotel California" was the first one I completely worked out.

Happy to join the group and look forward to exchanging ideas and tips and tricks with you all.



Comment by Walt Pilcher on March 16, 2014 at 1:25pm

Great to have you in the group, John.  If we were all newbies here, with no help from more experienced players, we'd be in some trouble!

Comment by John Culver on March 16, 2014 at 9:06am

Not exactly a newbie to the guitar, but I'm here to help and learn whenever I can.

Comment by Dennis Younkin on February 19, 2014 at 5:26pm

Thanks Walt,

I wouldnt consider myself a newbe to the guitar, I ve been playing for 2 1/2 years but im sure i can learn plenty from the group. im part of the Seagull group also, I own 4 of them....

Thanks again for the welcome...



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