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Comment by Phil Manuel on October 19, 2012 at 6:55pm

@Sharon - funny you should ask about partial capos.  I just got mine today.  It's a Shub brass one, covering the 5-4-3-2-1 strings.  A guy I meet at my wife's recent Art Exhibition was using one, and showed me how he used it.  So, I finally ordered one off Amazon Wednesday.  Spent the last 3 hours playing around with it.  I think it's a keeper.

It works pretty well on my Martin HD-28, but it's a little hard to get off/on my little parlor guitar.  I re-arranged a version of "Run Away" using 2 capos, a full and the partial, putting the full one on the 3nd fret, and the partial on the 5th fret.  I think I'm going to have a lot of fun figuring how to use it.  Fun so far. Also, check out Lon's use of the partial capo.  I'll try to get a video done of "Run Away" this weekend to show how I used both capos.

Comment by Sharon Netzley on October 19, 2012 at 10:35am

Of course I could just go read all the prior posts. :)

Comment by Sharon Netzley on October 19, 2012 at 10:35am

I've got a few different capos. Really like Shubb. And I have a spider capo which I'm just starting to play around with. I'm really curious about partial capos. Anybody have experience with them?

Comment by Sharon Netzley on October 19, 2012 at 10:31am

Hi all. I'm new to the group. Starting to play around with capos and alternate turnings due to problems with my left hand. Looking forward to learning and sharing.

Comment by Antonio Cotichini on June 7, 2012 at 4:47pm

Yes, Florida, I agree... on my 12 (as on my three 6 and mandolin) I use only KK Pure Western (passive)... much more better woody sound. I tune my 12  lower (1 step standard or some open tunings) and sometimes I use a Shubb, rarely over the 3rd fret.

Comment by FloridaGull on June 7, 2012 at 4:09pm

Sounds like amplifying a 12 string might be a job for a good soundboard transducer (SBT)...
And you need to capo to the third fret to play "Landslide" in Eb... ;-)

Comment by Adriaan N Roggeveen on June 7, 2012 at 3:40pm

RTFI always works! Always reluctant to mention that. However, since I knew I had noting between the piezo and Xamp I had to do hte "tuning " withte amp/preamp off-instrument since it was an add-on. Almost didn't do it for esthetic and appearance. Anyway..when all else fails. Since erading your piece theough I belieev I will look into a suitable off-instrument preamp to perhaps give me more flexibility. My Crate doesn't have the bells and whistles of the newer equipment. Althouh I grew up with 12ax7 and 12au7 tube amps....made in Russia I understand now. Anyway, "Keep on pickin', Time's Tickin'!"

Comment by Jud Hair on June 7, 2012 at 3:06pm

Nick ... My Fishman Matrix Infinity is active with a battery-powerde pre-amp ... I pulled out the instruction book and found out what I'd been doing wrong.  It has a sound hole volume thumb wheel and one for tone variation that goes from "flat" to "scooped".  It also has a bass "boost" adjustment knob  It's doing a lot better now. I think you're right about cpaoing above the 2nd fret though.  Sort of defeats the purpose of the 12-string sound. 

Comment by Adriaan N Roggeveen on June 7, 2012 at 2:06pm

J ud...I have a Fishman on my Martin D12-20 and while I am new at "amplified, pick-up'd" acoustic guitar playing I ahve only an observation or two for myself... 1) Should have tried it out at home first. The Fisnman is so sensitive with the 12-string that I have to start with zero gain and run it through a pad to determine the actual input range. I do not have an onboard preamp..it is a passive pickup. 2) the octave separation of the tuned strings  and difference in physical dynamics of strings and no adjustments on the pickup took more effort to get the amp adjusted to the pickup. With a capo the sound seems to become more "stringy" due to the  unequal amplification. However, I do believe that being able to setup before hand with the "sound guy or gal" might be advantageos until you get a better ear for your new treasure. Personally I do not capo over 2 frets anymore beccause I just love that deep rumble of the 12. For me though the separation of sound has become less clear to my ears with so much amplification going on. I am still deciding whether a pickup is a good idea for a 12 string although the gear out there cetainly is good...maybe too good for me, these days. Peace.

Comment by Jud Hair on June 7, 2012 at 8:35am

@John ... it's a lot of fun to play.  I think I couold have treated my 12-string GAS effectively by getting a Seagull Coastline Cedar 12 for less than half the cost, but the Taylor just got hold of me and wouldn't let go.  The Seagull 12 is very nice!!

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