Framus Guitar

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Comment by Nadine LaRoche on January 22, 2011 at 8:02pm

So, would you suggest fixing it up? I seriously bought it for $30 and could not turn down the vintage look, but to be honest it got me because the action was sooo low. The only thing it really needs is a good set up. It is a fun lil guitar. Robert, would you know what it is worth? I am not looking to sell it, but if it is worth more than the $30 I paid for it, then I won't be taking it around to parties and campfires.

Comment by Robert Brochey on January 22, 2011 at 8:02pm

Hi Nadine... I just checked and does indeed appear to be a Western. Does it have a bolt on neck?

Comment by Robert Brochey on January 22, 2011 at 7:43pm

Oh, Martin might know too... he's a wealth of Framus knowledge (and plays great too)

Comment by Robert Brochey on January 22, 2011 at 7:41pm

Good catch! It does appear all original Nadine... Ted would know since I'm more familiar with the archtops and classical Framus guitars. I have wanted to buy a Gaucho but haven't found one except on eBay and I don't like eBay much, and would rather purchase from an individual. That's a nice looking guitar in any event! And welcome to the Framus group, I've met some very nice people here...

Comment by Nadine LaRoche on January 22, 2011 at 7:28pm

Hey guys, I am trying to find out some information on this Framus acoustic I happen to spot at a thrift store believe it or not. I've heard of Framus and I decided to pick it because it was cheap and was pretty to look at. I am just trying to find some information out on it. It is a 1969 5/195. I believe it is called a Western. It all is original from what i can tell. If anyone can give any specs on this like the wood types, and how much something like that is worth. I love collecting and hope I got a good deal for my collection. Is it rare? I cannot find anyone like it online. Help me out. Lovin this community.

Comment by Martin on January 16, 2011 at 1:46pm

Ted,

 I would try to get the height at the 12fret down to 3-4mm I would definitely try turning the truss rod half a turn anticlockwise before shimming the saddle might take the buzz away without raising the height to 6mm(1/4in) . Worth a try.

Martin

Comment by Ted Hechtman on January 15, 2011 at 9:16pm

Thank you all so much. This is what I tried tonight. I removed the bridge and raised it by inserting a sanded toothpick underneath. Now, I am completely aware that this deadened the sound. But I figured as a test..what the hell. So,,,the buzz on the strings stopped although there is still a sitar like minor overtone on the E and B. And...the action is 1/4 " at the 12th fret. So...I have an a blank tusq bridge and I'm going try to find a balance between buzz and height. BUT...I realized that even though this fixed the problem it might not have been the cause of the problem. So..I will examine each fret and tap a bit anyway. Also there seems to be very minor relief to the neck. I've a feeling the guitar wasn't cared for during it's life and played little. It's the only explanation, I think, for a 16 year old guitar to be in relatively pristine condition.Once again I am so grateful to be able to ask a question and have a bunch of caring and knowledgable people respond. Thank you! I'll keep you in the loop!

Comment by Robert Brochey on January 15, 2011 at 8:13pm

That does make sense Ginger and it can also happen sometimes if the guitar sits for a long time in changing weather (humidity) without any protection. I've seen it a number of times and was the first thing I looked for when I decided to refinish my old Framus. Also... be careful what kind of oil you use on the fretboard... I've had techs tell me not to use lemon oil. But I always have and haven't noticed any problems, buy apparently some oil can lift frets too. I think I'm going to switch to tung oil.

Comment by Ginger on January 15, 2011 at 6:55pm

As usual, I'm way late to this discussion & that may be a good thing...stop smirking everyone. =)

But I agree on the fret lifting as a cause because I've had it happen once on my old Gibson LG1 & also knew a person who couldn't figure out what was causing the buzz on their guitar, but it turned out to be that very same thing.  The guy that fixed his even gave (what he thought) was a cause for it. I'm not sure it is, but passing it along. He said if the player doesn't wipe their fingers & they perspire a lot while playing that after awhile the wood will expand & pop the fret a bit. Does that make any sense Robert?

Comment by Martin on January 15, 2011 at 5:56pm

Here's another, one time I couldn't find anything wrong with a guitar that buzzed and eventually found that under the G third the saddle had a little bump or hard debris stuck between string and saddle I just smoothed it with some emery paper and the buzz was gone. I was shown how to set up guitars by a guitar teacher the first guitar he did was an electric and he got it set up to play without any buzzes with strings only 1mm high at the 12th fret he played it everwhere tried every fret no buzzes then he just adjusted it up to the correct height confident that it was set up right. I thought it was cool that he did that 1mm high and playing it quite firmly and every note sounded quite clearly. He had a very old Gibson with 13 's on it and the action was under 2mm and believe me he played that guitar loud and strong he was the most amazing player I've ever seen anywhere a jazz guitarist. He is revered by all that know him over here. I went to see him accompany some virtuoso accordian players played a lot of french accordian music that night you know what I mean with blistering runs up and down the keyboard and he was giving as good as them on the guitar breathtaking stuff. I thought he must have practised hard with these guys when I heard one of them ask him what key and he replied "You choose"

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