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2011 F-47 RC with DTAR - 4.6 lbs.
1972 Gibson J-40 - 4.2 lbs.
2003 Gibson J-200 - 4.8 lbs.
2001 Gibson Hummingbird - 4.8 lbs.
Do the Guild guitars from New Hartford weigh as much as the old Westerly RI Guild guitars? I saw someone saying they were very light. I had just recently read about why they needed to be so heavy was to make the sides heavy and stiff, so that only the top projects the sound, which also explains why my Westerly Guilds have rounded backs, to make them project better
The Guilds coming out of New Hartford are exceptional. I just took possession of #3 and #4 last week. My 2013 Guild D-55 is hands-down the best acoustic guitar I've played. Folks from the Let's Talk Guild site who have a lot more experience with older Guilds than I do also love them. I hope Cordoba maintains (or builds on) the quality of the brand.
Interesting to know that my first guitar, bought for me by my teacher, the great Buddy Merrill, was a Guild offshoot. Didn't know at the time Orpheum was a Guild product, but I was only 15 in '65. The rest of my Guilds were Hoboken born and eventually I bumped up (?) to the old Gibsons and Martins I now attach myself to. It's sad to see any transformation out of true craftsmanship for the sake of affordability, but it's in keeping with the principles of what's going on these days in America.My advice, if you have the do-re-mi, is to buy those old Hoboken Guilds and stash 'em. I feel lucky to have had my share. The new versions will never sound as good.
I don't know much about the new Guilds. Both of my Guild guitars were built in Westerly RI before the Fender takeover. I have an F5CE built in 1996 and a JF30 12 string built in 1993. Both are very nicely built great sounding guitars. They are heavier than other brands. I am not sure whether that has anything to do with the tone or volume or not. I have several Gibson guitars, and love their tone. Even with the company changes and manufacturing location moving from Kalamazoo to Bozeman Montana they try to make the new ones just like the originals, keeping tradition alive. Why Fender didn't choose to do that after they bought Guild puzzles me. My guess is that most the changes are cost cutting measures to reduce hands on time and associated labor costs. That is common to all companies. Why the new ones are lighter puzzles me. My guess is saving the cost of materials. Cutting material costs troubles me, because the woods selected directly relate to tone, as well as durability.
Ted...no new guitar made today is going to be the same as guitars made 20, 40, 60, 80 years ago...no matter the name they put on it. Things change and nothing we can do about it and whilst I agree with you to a point I also think that it is good to retain the "family name" in some manner least Guild be forgotten entirely. Hang on to the old ones because the new ones will never be the same.
Just sent this to Guild.
Listen...you make nice guitars and they have the name Guild on them but they are not really Guild as the only tradition being followed is the Logo and the model numbers. I mean...who is the next owner going to be? Guild - Fender - Cordoba....Mattel??
Enter the Orpheum. A Guild with an archaeological past...the Guild that "would have been". An instrument that builds upon the legacy of it’s forebears while exploiting the benefits of already having 'been there and done that’!This guitar is every bit the contender in a ring of professional heavy weights. The fit and finish is on a par with, and many times superior to, the very best of breed. The guitar is lithe and sits as effortlessly in the lap as it rests suspended with a strap. The neck is comfortable and the fretboard is easy on the hands.But it comes down to the sound. And this is where the Orpheum shines! The guitar is balanced across registers (which means wherever you prefer to play on the fingerboard you will get the expected volume and tone). The guitar is loud, but it is not harsh, not overly bright or brassy and ear piercing. Nor is it muddy, woody and thumpy. It is not cavernous or vapid, but it possesses that rich acoustic warmth that made me spend hard-earned money on my first Guild.My Orpheum sounds great unplugged, causes people to stop what they're doing and listen, and is a joy to play! All my criteria have been satisfied.I offer a passionate message, one I know in my heart to be true...the Guild sound is worthy of consideration by guitarists of all tastes. The company took a risk by believing it could improve on that sound. I say they delivered!I say, "Orpheum: it sounds like the guitar you want to play"!
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