Mixing down when using vocal correction plug-in

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Permalink Reply by Tom H on May 17, 2011 at 2:13pm

You should be able to include it in the mixdown. Depending upon the DAW you are using, there should be a setting to include effects, plugins, and the like in the mixed stereo. You shouldn't have to record out to tape and bring it back in ... though that may sound pretty cool.

Permalink Reply by J D Carroll on May 17, 2011 at 2:30pm

Thanks Tom.  I will have to try some extreme vocal flaws to see if that works.  My DAW (RealBand) only offers a "mixdown to stereo tracks" menu item.  I am going to try Sonar X1 (got a great upgrade deal) and see if that handles it any better.  I have tried the mix to Revox before and it is pretty cool, a little more work but interesting.

Permalink Reply by hue on May 18, 2011 at 6:13pm

Sonar will definitely handle it better. Real Band doesn't look like it was designed for audio production. More like live use. Sonar is a great DAW with a whack of plugins. For the price, it is without a doubt the most full featured DAW available. I personally like ProTools and Samplitude better but that is a matter of workflow. Sonar also includes it's own pitch correction plugin.

 

Cool Edit is a little out dated and really it's overkill since Sonar already does object based editing. Meaning you can treat a clip as an object and add effects to that clip without effecting other parts of the same track.

 

You'll enjoy Sonar. Not to push it. I just think that if you read the manual and do some watching over at Cakewalk "university", you'll be surprised how powerful a full featured DAW is.

http://www.cakewalk.com/CakeTV/SONARU.aspx

The videos there are free to watch and will get you editing your tracks quickly. Keep in mind they do a lot of exaggerated editing to help you get the point. Don't do some of the drastic adjustments they do.

Permalink Reply by J D Carroll on May 19, 2011 at 2:20pm

Thanks hue & Ed,

Ed I do have an older version of Cool Edit and use it for clean-up and minor adjustments, I love it, the old version is best for me.  Hue, I just downloaded the X1 studio, and am going to install it this weekend, I am looking forward to trying it out, I have checked out some of the videos, oh baby, fancy oh.  Looks like fun.

What I was wondering was, how does say Antares Vocal process the "fixed" track once it is mixed down?  Is the track "fixed" to the correction when I mix it down? This may be a "If a tree falls in forest..." type question but I just was wondering.

Thanks again guys.

 

Permalink Reply by Ed Rhoades on May 17, 2011 at 8:30pm

I really like the older version of Cool Edit which acts as a plug in for Sonar. What I would do is leave the raw track alone, clone it...then take the cloned track into Cool Edit where I could manipulate it...add effects, clean it up, add reverb etc.

 

There is also a reverb version included in Cakewalk or Sonar, but we haven't tamed it and found it to be a memory hog. The program adds the effect, but seems to have the effect running while Cool Edit just changes the track.

 

Another way of doing it (without Cool Edit) that would probably work would be to add the effect then solo the track and mix it down with just the track with added effects. Then import the track complete with effects. at that point you could turn off the effects on the initial track and mute it. I usually clone a track before working with it, knowing if something goes wrong, I can always come back and use the initial raw track.