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Comment by Bob Crain on November 18, 2011 at 3:27pm

Here here! If you don't know and understand history you are doomed to repeat it.

Comment by Alan Land on November 18, 2011 at 11:55am

50,000 on the battlefield, but over 150,000 who succumbed to illness that was combat-related. All so we could OWN the business in VietNam, rather than give it to China. What did we do instead? We gave OUR OWN INDUSTRIES to China. The irony would be hysterical, had it not cost SO MANY LIVES.

Comment by Bob Crain on November 17, 2011 at 4:54am

My daddy told me that protesters would never stop the War in Viet Nam....but sometimes the power of the people can eventually effect change. Hopefully change can be effected without another Kent State, but the Military Industrial Complex will not give up easily. Last time their profit margins cost 50,000+ guitar players, fans, musicians, artists etc.....but don't take it from me read President Eisenhower's Farewell Speech to Congress it was clear then, it's plain as day now. This is the last comment I will make on this subject (here anyway). I used to write letters to the editor, now I just write songs.

Comment by Dave G on November 16, 2011 at 7:06pm

Right...it's hard to know how far a gov't can push a disgruntled citizenry before chaos snowballs. 

Comment by Alan Land on November 16, 2011 at 6:59pm

"Madoff walked the line" - actually, Madoff's pyramid scheme was peanuts compared to the one run by the FED and the Investment banks. I don't think evolution is the problem, but more likely complacency. Now that REAL unemployment is at 1933 standards, John Q is much less "complacent." A few Kent State 4 episodes might get all the sheeple back in line, or might push them over the edge. Time will tell.

Comment by Dave G on November 16, 2011 at 6:53pm

Jud, Alan, Ed...it all proves that the most powerful force in the capitalistic model is the capacity for the 'haves' to retain and protect their stash.  Madoff walked the line and got caught, or lived too long.  The complexity of the puzzle and the instinct to protect what you have makes it almost impossible to wrench wealth and power from those who have and cling to it.  Not sure many of us would let it go if we had it, even for the greater good.  It's an endless conversation, but a human condition.  Maybe a little more evolution is in order.

Comment by Edward Sparks on November 16, 2011 at 6:18pm

I think at this point I have 30 instruments...probably of which 25 are guitars...mostly acoustic...I am not a millionaire...not even close...but with all this wood stuff going around (Gibson vs the Government) I have to say that I am glad I got what I got when I did! I have always been a fan of C & N and I don't think they need the money or the attention either.  I hope in my heart that they were there for the right reason and not just to be seen...they seem to have always been there for the right reason.  Protests are not and will never be what they were in the '60's but you gotta start somewhere.  I just hope for the best and try to keep a positive outlook.  Edward  

Comment by Alan Land on November 16, 2011 at 6:01pm

Oh Jud, I own three Martins, and I am no BILLIONAIRE. I've even spent over half of my first million. The point of the protests is that bankers and THEIR government were screwing us twice already with their phony FEDERAL RESERVE, and have now screwed us the third time by sending us the bill for bailing out their gambling losses. If they lost at the Wall St gaming tables, who won? The 1% - to the tune of over $6 TRILLION. None of the stars of the 60s are in that bracket. Probably not even the royalty (Pauly and Elton John).

Comment by Dave G on November 16, 2011 at 5:43pm

Maybe, Jud...but I own a Martin even though I can't really afford one.  Sometimes I look at my guitars as 'rentals'.  Crosby, Nash, Snoop Dog, Bono, etc are all in a different life bracket that allows them to retreat to their safe space and not worry about creating income. 

Back to Martins...I've owned a couple small acoustics...an early 50's 0017 and a '96 5-15, but just bought my first d'naught...a '66 D18.  It's everything I thought a bigger Martin should be, but I'm still leaning toward the slightly more muted woodiness of my J45.  One thing I've noticed is that the lacquer coating on the Martin is quite substantial, and though I think it will open up through the years, the dang thing is 45 years old and maybe it would have gotten 'there' by now. I can wait though...it is a real peach of a guitar that maybe could have blossomed earlier with a coat or two less.  Hasn't been refinished either. 

Comment by Jud Hair on November 16, 2011 at 5:18pm

Heh heh ... I suppose if you an afford to own a Martin, it could be argued that you aren't really part of "The 99%" ... Possibly, this thread is a better candidate for the "Protest Songs Revisited" chat forum ;-)

 

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