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Comment by Ginger on November 18, 2011 at 6:47pm

LOL to Stephen! Ain't dat da troot? Suing these days is right up there with lying & frankly this is where it comes in handy to have a brain & use it! If we accept someone based solely on the big letter after their name rather than whether or not they have *our* best interests at heart, we may as well "fold our tents" & walk away right now.

Comment by Stephen Crandell on November 18, 2011 at 5:57pm

MJ, I think we're on the same page.  Martin in hand or not, if our history is rewritten and changed, our children will stick their hands back in the fire, get burned, then they'll write a song asking  "why didn't someone tell me that fire is hot?".  And they'll probably look for someone to sue.  

Comment by Michael S. Jackson on November 18, 2011 at 5:14pm

I'll have to look that song up and give it a listen.

Musical instruments are indeed a by product of, and an influence to, history - that cannot be denied. Almost as much as firearms.

And, as we said, history cannot be ignored if you want to survive. For example, if we stick our hand in the fire, we learn, through history, that it will burn. If we learn from this history, we will choose not to do that again. We base our lives on the lessons of the past.

What I ask is: What if what you have learned is wrong? Martin in hand or not?

Comment by Stephen Crandell on November 18, 2011 at 5:09pm

Hi all,

I've been preoccupied for a while.  I've started building a PG (Portugese Guitar).  But I thought I'd look in and see what's happening here.  You've taken an interesting turn.  In response to MJ's question about what does all this have to do with Martin guitars, I would turn that sentence around a bit and say, what did Martin guitars have to do with all this.  Well, I wish Martin guitars could talk.  If some of those old vintage flat-top boxes could talk, they would voice a lot of different opinions, viewed from all sides,  regarding the questions you have raised.  That's one very important thing I like about Martin guitars.  They've been there and done that.  They have been and still are an iconic tool of freedom of speech.  If you haven't listened to CSNY's Find the Cost of Freedom lately, I suggest you take a listen.  What a song!  Valid then and valid now, no matter what your political point of view.

Comment by Michael S. Jackson on November 18, 2011 at 5:06pm

I very much agree with your assessment of the sound of a Martin. Very distinct and I really like them. But I don't believe Martin has been known for their beautiful designs - unless, of course, you consider the simplistic beauty of a square headstock which I think looks really good. Everything else they have done seems to be purely for sound ( excepting ornamentation on higher end guitars).

Comment by Jud Hair on November 18, 2011 at 5:02pm

Michael ...


Martin guitars??  Why are you asking about Martin guitars in the politics and world events forum?!?


Okay, relax guys ... just kidding ... :-)


Anyhoo ... as to your question, there is no doubt for me. It was the unique sound that only a Martin produces.  Not necessarily a better sound.  Just uniquely recognizable and pleasing to me.

Comment by Edward Sparks on November 18, 2011 at 4:02pm

Over and Over!

Comment by Michael S. Jackson on November 18, 2011 at 4:02pm

History is really important and it's sad that more people don't realize it and have not learned it. However, we need to be careful of who is writing those history books, who is teaching those classes, and who is reporting the news. We need to ensure it's not someone with an agenda and that is rare. What passes for history today in most schools, certainly in higher education, is anything but accurate.

Aside from that, what does all this have to do with Martin guitars?

Hey, I'd like to ask something. What are the design features you like most about Marting guitars? The headstock shape? The body shaper? Neck dimensions? I posted on the Gibson group a piece about Gibson shapes, but I was wondering what folks like about Martin's designs.

Thanks - m

Comment by Bob Crain on November 18, 2011 at 3:27pm

Here here! If you don't know and understand history you are doomed to repeat it.

Comment by Alan Land on November 18, 2011 at 11:55am

50,000 on the battlefield, but over 150,000 who succumbed to illness that was combat-related. All so we could OWN the business in VietNam, rather than give it to China. What did we do instead? We gave OUR OWN INDUSTRIES to China. The irony would be hysterical, had it not cost SO MANY LIVES.


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