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Comment by Michael & Kody on February 9, 2011 at 11:40am
Thanks all and everyone survived the tit-for-tat an all is well now. I recieved a nice message from the participant an everyone is guitar buddies an all is well. Hope my new D35 arrives today, mr klampitz of the forum has offered to help set it up. I may also need Jonothan, Ed sparks, an some other good people to assist.Very Nice! And watch for the video of me unpacking it, if I can figure how to video an upload........thanks guy & girls........alls welll.........
Comment by J. D. Woods on February 9, 2011 at 8:21am

Ginger - great idea! Art & music are so intertwined aren't they? I'm an assoc. prof. in the Art Dept. here at a local college but I've been involved in music all my life, so I sure understand that crossover. In fact, there've been many times in my occupational life that I couldn't make up my mind. Was I a guitar-playing art teacher, or a guitar player that was interested in art!

Charles - you're right, miniture guitars out of spruce hole cutouts? That's creative all right. Gotta be really small unless Ed uses the cutouts for the body and other materials for the neck. When I was a kid, if anybody carved minitures or something like that out of wood, we called it whittlin'. After a little education, you start refering to that kind of creativity as sculpture. :])

Comment by Ginger on February 9, 2011 at 7:52am
@ Charles - my husband & I have a bunch of them too. Some, Martin would stamp with their name & give out to those taking the tours, & others were just lying around. The first tour that we took I got 12 of them unstamped & then, not knowing what to do with them, I painted each as the 12 days of Xmas. They hung on our tree outside. Weather made fast work of them but I thought it was a brilliant idea at the time. LOL!
Comment by Charles on February 8, 2011 at 10:35pm

22 frets vs the standard 20.

I have a Martin sound hole cut-out myself from a factory tour.

I believe Ed Sparks (a member of this group) has used material from Martin sound hole cut outs for top material for his miniature guitars.  That's a creative use! 

Comment by J. D. Woods on February 8, 2011 at 6:59pm

Charles - yeah, bet you're right. For some reason your Seeger Martin reminds me of Django's jazz guitar.

Yes, I think I do remember seeing an occasional oval-holed Martin. When you say that they accomodated 2 extra frets, I assume you mean 14 frets to the body? Or do you mean 22 total as opposed to 20 - on a 12-fret neck?

Interesting side note: one of my professor comrades here at the school used to live near the Martin factory in PA. He said he'd go over and collect tons of those round hole cutouts that Martin would scrap. He'd bring them home for his kids to play with years ago when they were young.

I'm sure somebody along the line has done something really creative with those round cutouts. I'm envisioning a sculpture of some kind in my mind. 

Comment by Charles on February 8, 2011 at 3:29pm

I think odd sound holes, triangular, D shaped, etc actually go back to Jazz guitars of the Django Rhinehart (sp?) era...perhaps the early 40's?    Selmer-Maccafieri models as I recall.  Placement and shape of the holes effect bracing.

Regarding Martins, the early cutaway Martin acoustics utilized oval sound holes for modified bracing....which also accomated 2 extra frets than standard Martin acoustics had up until that time.  I guess folks preferred round sound holes so you don't see Martins with oval sound holes and 22 frets any more.

I liked them...I have a '92 000-16C and an '93 J-40C which both sport oval sound holes and 22 frets.  I don't recall ever seeing a Dread with an oval hole.

Comment by J. D. Woods on February 8, 2011 at 8:36am

Hey thanks guys. So... it looks like Gretch gets the nod for being the first to come up with the triangle soundhole then?

Jonathan - Yeah, know what you mean. The Weavers rocked before there was rock! I have some of their albums and one is of them at Carnegie Hall. The atmosphere for that concert was so charged, people sitting in the audience must have felt like they had their hands on a huge Van DeGraph generator. Love that group, it was such a delicious chemistry.

I watched the last show they did on video Weavers Reunion, I think it was called. They did a return to Carnegie with Lee Hayes in a wheel chair. Incredible!

Comment by Jonathan Gates on February 8, 2011 at 6:21am
Wonderful looking Seeger model. Met him once. Nice fellow. No politics. He autographed an album cover for me. I was a Weavers fan in the early 60's.
Comment by Edward Sparks on February 8, 2011 at 4:37am

As far as the soundhole...not sure exactly when Gretch had these out, but I think it was the 50's.


The martin design is a recreation of Seeger's custom acoustics made by a builder mentioned in the Martin Soundingboard article!  

Comment by Ken Bellingham on February 7, 2011 at 9:58pm

Hi J.D.,

I may have lost the thread of this current discussion, but if you are inquiring about the sound hole of Charles' new 12-string, I'll repeat what Edward Sparks posted earlier.  This new Martin model is featured on page 34 of the January, 2011 (Vol. 30) edition of "The Sounding Board".  If you are not receiving that newsletter in the mail from Martin, you can download a copy from their website (  This Martin model is a re-creation of the 12-strings played by Pete Seeger, and the triangular sound hole is characteristic of his guitars.  The "Sounding Board" provides a brief history on the design of Pete's guitars.


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