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Comment by michael schwartz on January 12, 2015 at 5:28am

One more thing we have in common...

Comment by Edward Sparks on January 12, 2015 at 5:14am
Michael, you married a saint too!
Comment by michael schwartz on January 12, 2015 at 5:09am

Welcome Gene!!! Good to see your name up here...finally! I've shared "our story" as well as your "Extremely COOL story" with a few members on here. You'll find some wonderful people  and hopefully develop some new Friends with shared common interests as I have...

  I'm with Gene, Ed, and Jud on the investment thoughts. I/You buy a guitar to make music not money. You're not buying a T'Bill. I still track 12 strings on eBay,Gbase, etc just to follow the market.Each individual guitar offers something unique, hence having multiple instruments. Mike has a good idea of putting notes in each case. I've done a spread sheet including model numbers purchase price,etc.which is not in a guitar case. My Wife(the Saint) is quite aware of what we have in the house...ha!! Actually so is our niece who is in line for one or more....

Comment by Mike Raeburn on January 12, 2015 at 3:45am

Hi Eugene, thanks for your interesting and thoughtful comments. I sense that many of us may be nearing the top of the Grim Reaper's list, myself included. I did buy a few (3) guitars from the USA more than a decade ago when the $ to £ was running at 2:1. That made for some very cheap guitars for me. I bought a Les Paul 3 pickup Black Beauty, an SG Custom that I had refinished by Gibson in Brunswick Bowling Ball Blue Sparkle, and a Fender Strat American HSS in black metal flake finish. (Well, you gotta have a Strat!) I am never going to be the next Gary Moore (rest his soul) so they have sat unplayed in my humidity controlled store ever since. I always judge 'profit' against what I would have made if I had put the money in the bank. Given the poor bank interest rates and the variation in exchange rates since then I have certainly not lost money but they have not gained very much either. I paid £950 for the Black Beauty and they are listing at £1,900ish on eBay at the moment. So if I managed to find a buyer I would have roughly doubled my money over 15 years. Don't know what the SG is worth, depends I suppose if I get a Glam Rock star on the right day to want it. The Strat is slightly up on what I paid but, given the rates of inflation since I bought it, is probably just about holding its value. Thing is, to get a good price the instrument has to be really rare or rare(ish) and in perfect condition. Original good condition 1950s Black Beauties go for £20k plus. I always feel acoustic instruments are even more of a lottery, big, thin flat bits of wood, some of them bent into unnatural curves are always likely to split and that is the value of your investment gone. So I would tend to agree with Jud and Edward, buy a guitar for the pleasure of owning it and playing it, if you get lucky then your heirs are in for a treat. And just in case I get to the top of that list quicker than anticipated, I have put a wee note in each case saying what the guitar is, what its history is and its present estimated value!

Comment by Eugene Linn on January 11, 2015 at 9:22pm

I will try to make a comment.  I have been following this group for some time.  I was introduced to it by Michael Swartz who I met when he outbid me on a Judy Collins 12 string that someday he will either sell to me or I will steal it from him.  Anyway.

I am in the process of helping a recently widowed woman sell a stash of Martin guitars that she found in her attic after her husband passed.  I am the original kid in the candy store.  Among them are four 1995 Sing-out Magazine 45th Anniversary D-28S models that he bought.  He played one and kept the rest as an investment.  They came from Elderly Instruments.  The price tag says $2,750.  One of them is currently being offered by Intermountain Guitar and Banjo in Salt Lake City at $3,450.  It has been there for over a year.  I am not asking quite so much for the other three.  The point is, if you play the instrument and enjoy it you probably won't lose money on it.  If you buy them to make a lot of money you have to live a really long time and popular tastes have to come back to your investment.  Not a great gamble.  I would love to own a new Retro Series because it probably plays like a vintage guitar but is not as delicate.  I have an old Martin mandolin that I took to a party.  Someone else played it and almost ruined it.  Nuff said, play on..   

Comment by Edward Sparks on January 11, 2015 at 7:06pm
I have never thought if any of my instruments as an investment. I know that some if my vintage ones are worth a lot, but worth more to me musically than anything monetary.
Comment by Jud Hair on January 11, 2015 at 6:50pm

Guitars as an investment in anything other than the simple pleasure of playing? I can't see it. When most new Martins immediately drop in value 40% or more the moment you fork over the money at the shop, it's hard to imagine a valid case for believing that investing in new Martins or any other brand new guitar for financial purposes makes sense.  The first thing that's got to happen is we'd have to gain back the initial depreciation which won't likely happen in our own lifetime.

Comment by Mike Raeburn on January 11, 2015 at 5:32pm

Don't think I will be investing in one, they will take some time to make any significant increase in value and by that time I will be participating in the role of fertiliser!

Comment by Edward Sparks on January 11, 2015 at 2:59pm

I think vintage Martins will increase in value.  I think these new retro series will increase in value when they become vintage...get it?

Comment by Don McClellan on January 11, 2015 at 2:54pm

My guitar instructor is of the opinion that the entire Martin Retro series will increase in value dramatically over time. My question is, do you agree and if so over what length of time?  I posted this question elsewhere but I'd really like to know what actual Martin owners think.

 

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