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Comment by Edward Sparks on January 1, 2012 at 9:38am

Hey John,

I am too far away to bop over to write, but I would be happy to try you post lyrics and I work on melody, or vice versa, or post an audio file for me to work on...just a thought!  Edward

Comment by John H on January 1, 2012 at 8:53am
Finding myself struggling with a couple of songs that I'm writing. Would love to sit down with someone in my area.
Comment by Michael Holmes on December 30, 2011 at 6:55pm
Comment by Carl Tilchen on December 24, 2011 at 5:07pm

Hi Songwriters

Would you like to view my song YOU FEEL ROMANTIC at ??

Happy Holidays,

Carl Tilchen


Comment by Edward Sparks on December 23, 2011 at 10:40am

Jeff Schoettker,

Welcome to the group!  


Comment by Michael S. Jackson on December 19, 2011 at 2:05pm

Me too.

They were not the freak accident that many people think.

Comment by Edward Sparks on December 18, 2011 at 2:13pm

Very cool Michael!!!

I read in an interview with John recently that when they were in the studio with George Martin recording one of the many starter versions of "Walrus" John had them tap a line out of a radio and he perused the dial...when he came to the King Lear broadcast he stopped and it just fell in so well with where they were4 in the song they kept it!  I guess they could pay off (license) any copyright infringement they might have made!  They were, and always will be, a fascinating part of my life!  Edward

Comment by Michael S. Jackson on December 18, 2011 at 9:36am

Edward - In my book on Beatles songs, I spent an inordinate amount of time on "I Am the Walrus," so I know the expletive you're talking about (see below)! That song is the epitome of John and Paul's (even George at times) propensity to use hidden meanings, double-intendres, symbolism, and generally screwing with your head. It would have been so educational to wear their shoes in the mid to late '60s. They were amazed at their success, bored by it, loved it, hated it, and often made fun of it. Group think is like that - easily lending itself to ridicule.

My book has a photo of John dressed in his Egg Man outfit, standing at the keyboard of his piano, with his arms outstretched. Parked in the background is his psychedelic Rolls Royce. The Egg Man was Eric Brudon (The Animals). They called him that because he used to like to crack eggs on women during sex.

Walrus (1967) was a conglomerate of acid trips,nursery rhymes, and Hare Krishna teachings. The walrus in the song came from Louis Carol's, "The Walrus and the Carpenter." Somolina Prichard was the cop known for busting pop stars for drugs. The English garden was John's (his back yard where he spent most mornings).

The song includes lines from Shakespeare's "King Lear" (act IV, scene VI). It was made up from words of three of John's songs put together. After the final take, John made the comment, "Let the ******* figure that one out."

In a Playboy magazine interview, John was asked what the song meant. He replied, "Dylan gets away with murder at times; I just decided I can write this crap too."

While Paul most often had a definite idea (a goal, if you will) in mind when writing, John often patched together several poems and ideas into one song. Sometimes you saw them intertwined with Paul's stuff, sometime vice versa (e.g., "A Day In the Life"), but this one was all John's.

Fascinating and brilliant song-writing team!

Comment by Walt Pilcher on December 18, 2011 at 6:29am

Heard it before and I still like it!

Comment by Chris Wolf on December 17, 2011 at 10:34pm

Back in the mid eighties, I wanted to write a song but I didn't know how. I was just doing John Prine and Neil Young covers. Then one night I was watching SCTV (Second City Television, remember that?) with the late, great John Candy. He walked out with a western shirt, bolo, cowboy hat and guitar and he said "If ya wanna write a hit country song, ya gotta write about critters. Cuz folks like songs about critters." Up to that point, that was the best songwriting advice I had gotten. So I wrote a song and I call it "The Critter Song". I hope you like it.

It goes a little somethin' like this-


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