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My friend said "treat every note from first to last as important"...good advice. Although my stuff is mostly lyric based....if it didn't have music it would just be poetry... so the music is important...still learning, still working on it.
Yes AG has provided us with a nice forum. There was some discussion about cramming it all in to the main website...but I saw on the site today that they are leaving it as is for the "foreseeable future". They renovated the main site not too long ago and the natives got a bit restless about it, nothing like what has happened at Sonicbids.
Got my copy of the mag the other day what do we think about the new look and format? I like it, a bit of news is good and as always the lessons and tips are good I have used many of the tips over the years...like the open string chords recently.
Ed, you must rank higher in the chain on this site...whenever I try to copy and past something like this I get the too many words message....frustration and usually give up and resort to linking to my website...what's the trick.
Nice info, I find that my songs generally find a way to end themselves either musically or vocally...however a friend who played bass in the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra (and electric R&R on the side) told me that I needed to work on my intros and outros so I have put a bit more thought in to them not so much what is played but how it is played. In the band we are taking a couple songs out singing acapella which seems to work nicely.
Great stuff Edward ... thanks for sharing it!
Buddy and the Stones!
Edward ... how about "Not Fade Away" by Buddy Holly? ;-)
It is unusual for a pop song to have a completely new section for the ending, after the final chorus. If there is any new material, at most it is usually a simple rhythmic figure.
The ending from Of Mountains and Men's "Mountain Sound" ends with the ending of the chorus, but the whole band does "kicks over time" on the last two syncopated beats. By all coming together on those rhythmic hits, the ending feels stronger and more punctuated.
It's still ambiguously not the I chord or ending on Beat 1.
And not only does the rhythm leave us open ended, but the lyrics as well. The last line they sing is "We sleep until the sun goes..." but never gets to the last word "down". We can fill that in with our imaginations.
Lady Gaga's "Applause" has an actual composed ending, although simple and short. She uses a rhythm from an earlier background vocal, but now it is on vocals and synth.
This feels like an ending because the main groove has been stripped away and just this line is the focus. The vocals and synth are tight and punctuated on that theme, similarly giving a feeling of "punctuation" like the kicks-over-time from "Mountain Sound".
Yet still we have a some ambiguity - the song doesn't end on beat one or on the tonic.
A useful technique for fading out without just repeating the chorus ad infinitum is to write a new, quiet section that vamps. Typically this will be ambient, simple, and gentle.
Here are two examples:
You get the advantage of a fade, that feeling of never ending, without seeming quite so lazy about doing it.
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