"I agree, Phil. The M20 was one of my favorites to play, and the sound rivaled my 0017 Martin, both late 50's models. Guess I always miss the deeper bass of a bigger guitar so I always found them expendable as I juggled my collection."
"If you can hold out and find a B25 you'll only be out a couple hundred more than what people are getting for the LG0 and you'll get the satisfaction of having a decently balanced small bod. I have an old D18 and can't imagine ever…"
"Hi Jud. Guess I'm one of those guys who badmouths the LG0, unless you have a kid taking lessons and you can get it for a couple hundred bucks. Specs are found her http://home.provide.net/~cfh/gibson6.html#lg...
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"Good eye, Mike. Good analysis too, except I would opine that although the old Xbraced Goya/Levins I've owned are pretty comparable to the woody sound of the old Gibs I've played, the sustain and tone of the Gibs ratchet up the waterline…"
"Follow your ear...Yep, you got hold of a winner in the affordable flat top world. I like 'em older but that's a fine keeper. Here's a site you can peruse to look up the model. $400 perhaps, but don't go by…"
"I think late 60's true J50 is right at about 1500 bucks. If you tip the timeline back 10 years you might get to the $2500 mark. Woefully short on details with this one so I'd hope the prospective buyers know their schit."
"I never have the issue come up, as I seem to only dwell in the land of 50 yr old and older acoustics, before all the swapping of labels began. Moon Guitars built a pretty dead on replica of the M26 for Peter Rowan, but it doesn't make it a Goya."
Glad to her from ya Dave, glad your still enjoying that J45.we have had a great run this year on all our vintage acoustic guitars and just cant keep them on the site for very long ( good thing). Keep in contact .
Sorry for taking so long to respond....I've been jumping in the shop with a sudden flush of orders for these small "alto" steel string guitars my apprentice and I have been making.
So....how are you thinking of having this top restoration done? Are you just going to yank out the "2x4" (and if so.....how?) and let the original bracing suffice? Are you thinking of completely re-bracing the top w/ new braces? If so...how were you imagining doing / having this done? take off the top? take off the back? new top (don't do that!)? When you say "re-done bracing", I'm guessing that you'll pull that 2x4 somehow (hope it was glued in w/ a heat / water soluble glue) and let the old bracing stay and use light tension strings. Sometimes wood has a memory (often really) and if the top was "potato chipped" for a while....I wonder if when the support is gone if it will go back to it's dipped position. On some nylon string guitar that were known for being underbraced and dipping down in front of the bridge....my teacher (and by that I mean....often I would do the work) would install what he called a "flying brace". There would be two "pillars" glued on to the sides in line with where the dip was. They wouldn't go the entire length of the side. They would butt up against the back linings and stop about 1/2" or so from the top linings. A wing like brace would be made of Spruce or Fir, about 3/8" square, that spanned these pillars, with a little "button" of wood that, when the wings were wedged into these pillars, would press up on the center brace and force it up a bit and add extra upward support. I'm not sure if something similar could be done to exert enough force on a steel string (maybe pushing up at the intersection of the X brace....tho I realize this guitar may be ladder braced). It's just an idea....and one that's not easily or clearly explained here. If the original braces are in good shape and the 2x4 support is taken out cleanly (without taking out too much top wood) and the strings tensioned appropriately.....maybe it will work just fine. If the guitar finds that it's missing the extra support.....maybe something similar but lighter would be a good compromise. Maybe 2 or 3 pieces of veneer (Maple, Mahogany), w/ the grain alternating, would give it enough support but be less massive than what you describe.
I'm sorry to ramble...the only way I can do this is to think / write out loud. If you want to actually TALK about it....send me an email at email@example.com and I'll send you my phone number.
BTW.....that's a sweet looking guitar you have!! I love Mahogany topped guitars. I just got an order for a small guitar w/ mahogany top, back, and sides. I can do all sorts of things w/ these small guitars that I could never get away with in my "regular" work of building nylon string guitars. Here's a pic of a small Mahogany steel string I just sold.