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Jon M. Allred
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  • Salt Lake City, UT
  • United States
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Apr 22, 2012
Jon M. Allred replied to Michael & Kody's discussion New Martin D35 in the group Guitar Makers
"It isn't unusual for the fret ends to extend off the fretboard. It sometimes happens after a guitar is a few years old and the fretboard has shrunk a little or if the guitar has been taken from a more humid climate to a dryer one. It would be…"
Mar 6, 2011
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Mar 5, 2011
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Jan 13, 2011
Jon M. Allred replied to Tim McAvoy's discussion Mahogany Grain in the group Guitar Makers
"I'd use it, although I'm in Utah where everything is nice and dry, including the builder's hands."
Jan 3, 2011
Jon M. Allred left a comment for Todd Rose
"Actually, Todd, the correct term, for my instrument at least, is probably octave mandolin. It is tuned an octave below a standard or soprano mandolin, just like the name implies. The scale length on mine is 22.25" which is perfect for that body…"
Jan 3, 2011
Todd Rose left a comment for Jon M. Allred
"Hi Jon,   Thanks for your kind words about my instruments.   Yes, ash back and sides on that instrument, which I call a zoukulele.  Though it looks like a mando, it's tuned like a tenor uke: GCEA (low to high).   I've…"
Jan 2, 2011
Jon M. Allred left a comment for Todd Rose
"Also, Todd, Is that a bouzouki? For years I've thought about building one. What is the scale length on yours? I've also never seen a pair of strings held by one bridge pin. Interesting! Thanks! Jon"
Jan 2, 2011
Jon M. Allred left a comment for Todd Rose
"Hello, Todd! My name is Jon Allred and I, too, am an instrument builder. I enjoyed the photos on your website. You have some fine looking instruments and some interesting ideas in your construction methods. I love your alto mando. Are the back and…"
Jan 2, 2011
Jon M. Allred commented on Edward Sparks's group Capo Users Group
"Come on, Edward, if you can pull it off you'll be a millionaire! We'll worship you! As for me, I've had no luck at it.Jon"
Dec 12, 2010
Jon M. Allred replied to John Wilson's discussion First 12-string in the group 12-String Guitar
"I learned to play guitar on a Kingston 12-string. My parents bought it for me when I was 16 years old. I remember looking at the 6-string ( $79.99) and the 12-string ($89.99) and thinking 'Hey! For only 10 bucks more I get twice as many…"
Sep 28, 2009
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May 2, 2009

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Which one of the following describes your involvement in music? (Check all that apply)
Amateur or recreational musician, Guitar maker
How many years have you been playing guitar?
More than 30 years
Which of these instruments do you own or play?
Flattop steel-string acoustic guitar, Electric guitar, Mandolin, Travel guitar
The make and model of your guitar(s) and/or other instruments and gear.
Allred String Instruments six and 12-string guitars, Allred mandolin and octave mandolin. Allred electric guitar, Epiphone EJ-200.
What type of music do you like to play?
Acoustic rock and fingerstyle, bottleneck.
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At 7:04pm on January 2, 2011, Todd Rose said…

Hi Jon,


Thanks for your kind words about my instruments.


Yes, ash back and sides on that instrument, which I call a zoukulele.  Though it looks like a mando, it's tuned like a tenor uke: GCEA (low to high).


I've never actually heard the term "alto mando" before.  How is that tuned?  And what's the scale length?


The other instrument you asked about (at least, the one I think you're asking about) is a guitar-bouzouki, custom designed and built for an Irish player named Tony Dunne.  It is tuned ADGBE, with octave pairs on the A, D, and G courses, and unisons on the B and E.  Scale length is 25.6" (650mm).  Here's Tony playing both of these instruments at the Newport Guitar Festival in Florida last April:




Take care,


At 10:35am on May 23, 2010, Edward Sparks said…
Sorry about that, after I posted that message I scrolled back up and saw that there were pics of it there...meant to let you know that, but forgot! It's beautiful. Mine is going to look like a mini guitar shape body with the 8 string 22+" scale neck. I will probably have some questions as I move ahead! Thanks, Edward
At 7:49am on May 22, 2010, Edward Sparks said…
Hey, how about some pics of the 22+" scale mando? Thanks, Edward
At 6:56am on May 22, 2010, Edward Sparks said…
Thanks for the update/advice Jon. I have been pondering over the scale length question for a while and it looks like you settled it. Books banter the "right way" around and all seem to disagree, but I respect your opinion very thing to write about scale lengths, another to have experimented with them and found the best! I am not a busy builder like you, I only build for myself and it's a long time between projects... I have been in the planning stages too long on this octave mando and I have a free source for great tone woods right now and need to take advantage of it while it lasts! I will keep you posted with my progress now that I about to move past the paper plans stage. I would love to see pics of the work you are about to start, especially the L-00 guitar. And solid bodies are not the Dark Side in my book, as a matter of fact I am about to build a body for a neck I built a while back for a 6 string banjo that I made and didn't like. Speaking of the Dark Side, I saw a bumper sticker that read "Come over to the Dark Side...we have Cookies!" take care and keep me posted! Thanks, Edward
At 6:16am on May 20, 2010, Edward Sparks said…
Hi Jon,
It's been a while, hope things are good for you! I know I asked this before, but I am about to get started on my octave mando and I wanted to know what scale you used on your hybrid 9 string? Thanks, Edward
At 3:25pm on October 26, 2009, Luis Motta da Silva said…
Hi, Jon!
Thank you for the kind comment. In my page, I posted a picture with the title "fanplate", and added a detailed comment about how those tuners work. In fact, they are typically Portuguese, nobody else makes tuners like those. However, there are 18th century english instruments, called "English gittars", with similar tuners, only the plate was square, not fan-shaped, and there were no thumbscrews, only the screws, you had to have a key (similar to those of old time clockwork toys, or the ones used by piano tuners) to tune the instrument. That was a great progress, if compared with renaissance lutes's tuners, however these modern ones are much better, and are in use in Portuguese tuners since the last quarter of the 19th century, if not before. They are reliable, long-lasting and grant you fine tuning that holds the string tension for days. And they are a lot nicer than conventional tuners. Besides that, they allow to contain tuners for 12 strings in a very small space (much better than the celebrated Rickenbaker solution). The two examples shown in the pictures I posted are custom made, handcrafted ones, made specially for me by the man I consider the very best artisan in the field. You can choose very expensive ones, made of noble woodas, or semi-precious stones ( Traditional Portuguese taste is a litlle kitsch). I go for solid brass thumbscrews, it's a matter of taste.
Nice to hear from you!

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