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Fred Parczewski replied to millian's discussion La Patrie Collection & Collection SF? in the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
"Better late than never, but you probably already know; it's the designation for "factory second". I Bought a maritime folk sws for 350$ that sounded a hell of a lot better than the full price one. It had a minor flaw on the bottom end…"
Wednesday
millian replied to millian's discussion La Patrie Collection & Collection SF? in the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
"I picked up a La Patrie Collection for $379.  They had 2 of them "used".  I picked up the one without the SF in the s/n. One had the SF on the s/n and the other did not.  I went there 3 times in a few days and played…"
Oct 9
Elton Bloye replied to millian's discussion La Patrie Collection & Collection SF? in the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
"I have an SF Seagull - Usually its very minor cosmetics - My pearl inlaid gull has a black wing, and that's it.  IMO - If it's an SF and it looks good, grab it and save the $$$.  "
Oct 8
FloridaGull replied to millian's discussion La Patrie Collection & Collection SF? in the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
"BTW, the "SF" designation should cause there to be a significantly lower price on the instrument...  ;-) I've seen several Factory Second designated Godin products - and I have been hard pressed to find the "flaws" in…"
Oct 8
millian replied to millian's discussion La Patrie Collection & Collection SF? in the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
"Thanks all."
Oct 8
FloridaGull replied to millian's discussion La Patrie Collection & Collection SF? in the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
""SF", "FS", or "S" at the end of a Godin serial number means a factory second..."
Oct 8
Tony K. replied to millian's discussion La Patrie Collection & Collection SF? in the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
"I could be wrong, but I believe the "SF" stands for Factory Second.  Meaning, it's got some sort of small blemish or 2 somewhere on it that made Godin say, "this is not perfect." Usually it's something small and…"
Oct 8
millian added a discussion to the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
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La Patrie Collection & Collection SF?

Tried out a couple of La Patrie Collection classical guitars at Music Go Round that were "used".  The label on one said "Collection"  and the other "Collection SF".  Both have the same finish for I first thought the SF stood for satin finish.  Anyone know the difference?I wonder if these were some sort of returned guitars bought by Music Go Round.  I did not see any stamps or 2's at the end of the S/N.  One employee there told me they do purchase B-stock and C stock from Godin.  Another…See More
Oct 7
Elton Bloye replied to millian's discussion Seagull guitars @ Music Go Round stores in the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
"Ja, I agree with Tony on this one. My Artist Mosaic is B-stock (SF serial number), and it cost me $750 new. It was pretty much flawless to my eyes, and my only guess to the "flaw" would be the pearl Seagull which has a blackened wing,…"
Sep 22
Tony K. replied to millian's discussion Seagull guitars @ Music Go Round stores in the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
"If you're really curious, I would just ask the store, preferably the owner, where they got them.  Hopefully they'll be honest with you. I asked my guitar store guy a couple of months ago if I could sell two guitars at his store on…"
Sep 21
FloridaGull replied to millian's discussion Seagull guitars @ Music Go Round stores in the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
"If a guitar store closes, perhaps the remaining inventory gets dispersed to other stores as "used"?  I do not know if this is true in general, but about a year or so ago a guitar store closed in Melbourne, FL - and they were a Walden…"
Sep 21
Jud Hair replied to millian's discussion Seagull guitars @ Music Go Round stores in the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
"Millian ... The answer to this issue has been sort of a moving target over the past few years. In a lot of ways, the issue appears to be one of semantics.  Seagull doesn't sell any guitars at all directly.  They only sell through…"
Sep 21
millian added a discussion to the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
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Seagull guitars @ Music Go Round stores

Hello all again,It's been a while since I posted.   One of the local Music Go Round stores in my area has just got flooded with some "used" Seagull, S&P guitars and 1 Norman dread.Where do these come from?  I did not see any stamp or # labels applied over original s/n's.  They are labeled as used on the hang tags.Are these possibly b-stock?  Factory returns/repairs?  I think I have read somewhere maybe here about Seagull not selling b-stocks.  I cannot believe they all of a sudden got a…See More
Sep 21
Luis Motta da Silva replied to millian's discussion Woodland Pro Folk all mahogany anyone? in the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
"Well, I did use mahogany for sides and backs, and I've read about mahogany tops. As far as I remember, people consider they make good guitars for strumming, for they produce brilliant, "dry" tone. I also consider myself to be…"
Nov 4, 2013
Luis Motta da Silva replied to millian's discussion Woodland Pro Folk all mahogany anyone? in the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
"Plywood is made of three or more thin sheets of wood. Sheets are disposed so that a given sheet has its grain perpendicular to the grain of the previous sheet. Because of that, plywood is more stable than solid wood - it won't shrink in dry…"
Nov 1, 2013
Richard Lee Norris replied to millian's discussion Woodland Pro Folk all mahogany anyone? in the group "Seagull" Spoken Here ... (also fluent in "Godin" Gab)
"I've spent less than 10' on an all mahogany Martin and that with an "assistant" hovering overhead, so I don't count that, but why I write is that the predomination of spruce & cedar have eclipsed the field, although so…"
Jul 29, 2013

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Which one of the following describes your involvement in music? (Check all that apply)
Gigging or professional musician
How many years have you been playing guitar?
More than 30 years
Which of these instruments do you own or play?
Flattop steel-string acoustic guitar, Electric guitar
The make and model of your guitar(s) and/or other instruments and gear.
Seagull Coastline S6 Folk
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I don't regularly read Acoustic Guitar

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At 10:34am on June 27, 2012, Jud Hair said…

Hello Nic ... I see that you play a SEAGULL ... please consider joining our very active chat forum of over 200 Seagull owners and fans at: http://www.acousticguitarcommunity.com/group/SeagullAficionados

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